‘This killing thing is barbaric, but I think it has to be’: podcast reveals unpublished audios by former president of the military dictatorship | Fantastic

‘This killing thing is barbaric, but I think it has to be’: podcast reveals unpublished audios by former president of the military dictatorship | Fantastic
‘This killing thing is barbaric, but I think it has to be’: podcast reveals unpublished audios by former president of the military dictatorship | Fantastic
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On the 60th anniversary of the military coup in Brazil, a podcast uses artificial intelligence to retrieve statements from dictatorship generals

On the 60th anniversary of the military coup in Brazil, the podcast “A dictatorship recounted” features unpublished audio by former president Ernesto Geiselwith whom journalist Elio Gaspari had recorded meetings. Some of the historical records produced by Gaspari were recovered with the help of Artificial Intelligence.

On March 31, 1964, the military removed then-president João Goulart from power and remained in charge of the country until 1985, a period marked by increased repression, censorship and persecution of opponents of the regime.

In one of the audios revealed, General Geisel, who governed the country between 1974 and 1979, speaks ill of another former president.

“He was lazy, he was sick, he was diabetic, he had a heart attack and I don’t know what,” said Geisel about General Arthur da Costa e Silva, who was in power between 1967 and 1969.

In another, he stated that “a dictatorship that lasts too long deteriorates.”

The production is based on the collection “Ditadura”, a series of five books by journalist Elio Gaspari. The volumes cover everything from the turbulent times that led to the 1964 coup against President João Goulart to the end of the uniformed regime in 1985. Gaspari researched the topic for forty years and gathered a valuable collection.

Between 1979 and 1996, Gaspari and Geisel had regular meetings. Conversations from the last two years of the period were recorded and form a large part of the collection researched for the podcast.

“The idea was precisely to collect this material, these files, minutes, notes, texts, documents that he [Gaspari] have with him [Geisel]”, stated Helena Dias, podcast researcher.

The podcast is the product of two years of work, including recovering audios and other documents, and was produced by CBN radio for Globoplay.

“We follow the same lines as the books, from Elio Gaspari’s collection. They set up the Brazilian military dictatorship and at a certain point decided that the dictatorship should be dismantled,” said journalist Ana Maria Straube, the podcast’s scriptwriter.

“We would like to talk to people who are learning more about dictatorship now. We wanted people to really get emotional listening and feel the atmosphere of tension. It’s also a podcast with the idea that people enjoy listening and get involved” , adds Ana.

The podcast is available on the CBN website and Globoplay. The first of six episodes is already on air and there is a new one every week.

Use of Artificial Intelligence

Recordings during the military regime were poorly made, and the sound was not always good. To make them viable for the podcast, Artificial Intelligence technology was used.

“That’s when this Artificial Intelligence tool that I used came up. We need to reach a similar tone. We need to reach an expression similar to the original expression. I think it gives a richness to the podcast that only Artificial Intelligence could provide“, commented audio editor Bárbara Falcão.

Among the recovered audios is a speech by Geisel about the military regime’s repression against left-wing armed movements:

“Because in the past, you arrested the guy and the guy went outside. This killing thing is barbaric, but I think it has to be”, said the general.

Elio Gaspari also had access to recordings that Geisel made in his office, from when he was chosen to be president, and during his presidency.

The journalist also has many audio recordings and meticulous notes, all made over the years by then captain Heitor de Aquino Ferreira, who was the private secretary of General Golbery do Couto e Silva.

“And that he kept in the garage of one of Golbery’s houses, on the outskirts of Brasília. Once that garage became infested with mold, he was very concerned about this collection, this archive, and sent everything he had to Elio”, explained Helena .

General Golbery, Captain Heitor’s boss, was Minister of the Civil House of the Geisel government and a kind of intellectual guide for the military regime — from beginning to end.

1 of 1 “The dictatorship retold” is a podcast about the Military Dictatorship in Brazil produced by CBN for Globoplay. — Photo: Reproduction/Fantastic
“The dictatorship recounted” is a podcast about the Military Dictatorship in Brazil produced by CBN for Globoplay. — Photo: Reproduction/Fantastic

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